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The film “Germinal” explores several themes that were relevant to the time period in which it was set, and which remain relevant today. One of the main themes is the struggle for social justice. The film highlights the vast inequalities between the wealthy owners of the mines and the impoverished workers who toil in them.

The film “Germinal” follows the story of Étienne Lantier, a young and idealistic engineer who arrives in the coal mining town of Montsou in northern France. Lantier is determined to improve the working conditions of the miners and to bring about social change. However, he soon realizes that the reality of life in the mines is far more brutal than he had imagined. film germinal

The film “Germinal” features stunning cinematography, with a muted color palette that reflects the bleak and harsh conditions of the miners’ lives. The camerawork is often stark and unforgiving, capturing the brutal reality of life in the mines. Directed by Claude Berri

Another theme is the power of collective action. The miners, who are initially divided and disorganized, eventually come together to demand better working conditions and wages. This collective action is a powerful force that challenges the authority of the mine owners and the government. and its themes of poverty

The 1993 film “Germinal” is a powerful and haunting cinematic adaptation of Émile Zola’s 1885 novel of the same name. Directed by Claude Berri, the film tells the story of a group of coal miners in 19th-century France, struggling to survive in a harsh and unforgiving environment. The movie is a scathing critique of the social and economic conditions of the time, and its themes of poverty, inequality, and rebellion continue to resonate with audiences today.

FibS

Member
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Technically, zoophilia is a theme (attraction to non-sapient animals) and bestiality is an action (intercourse between a sapient and non-sapient animal.)

However, in common parlance, bestiality has been generalized to mean the same thing as zoophilia, and tags are defined based on how users are expected to use them

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Wodahseht

Former Staff
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Zoophilia is really more psychological state than something you can see in an image.

The physical act between human/feral is bestiality. That's what we can see, that's what we tag.

So it's not so much that they are assumed to be the same tags, but that in art you can't generally tell the difference.

Also, combining avoids arguments over:
- "They are obviously in love, this should have zoophilia tag!"
- "All I see is a man having sex with a penguin, switching it back to bestiality."
- "But look how happy they both are. Zoophilia."
- "They're both just enjoying the sex. Bestiality."

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WarCanine

Blocked
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Ah, I just realized something.
'Straight' and 'Gay' are also tags, but they are applied to images with male/male sex and male/female sex.
This does not mean both characters are gay or straight,
this just means the sex they're having is related to
that sexual orientation.(For some reason.)
So this also counts for the 'Zoophilia' tag. (Even though not all people who have sex with non-human animals are zoophiles, but that's how these tags work, apparently.)

Looks like the tag system works a bit different than I expected and isn't 100% accurate.

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Clawdragons

Member
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WarCanine said:
Ah, I just realized something.
'Straight' and 'Gay' are also tags, but they are applied to images with male/male sex and male/female sex.
This does not mean both characters are gay or straight,
this just means the sex they're having is related to
that sexual orientation.(For some reason.)
So this also counts for the 'Zoophilia' tag. (Even though not all people who have sex with non-human animals are zoophiles, but that's how these tags work, apparently.)

Looks like the tag system works a bit different than I expected and isn't 100% accurate.

Yeah. Technical accuracy isn't as important as a few other factors - such as ease of searchability, expected usage, and so on. This is why, for instance, pteranodon implies dinosaur, even though we know and recognize that pteranodons were not dinosaurs.

I do understand your point about zoophilia (I'm a zoophile myself, after all, and in many contexts I consider the distinction between bestiality and zoophilia to be an important one to make) in this case it just isn't worth the fights. It's too subjective.

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PlüschTiger

Blocked
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Clawdragons said:
I do understand your point about zoophilia (I'm a zoophile myself, after all, and in many contexts I consider the distinction between bestiality and zoophilia to be an important one to make) in this case it just isn't worth the fights. It's too subjective.

Could decide e621 times! Sometimes it is extremely important to label secondary things to every detail and create tags for it. That happened with X-ray. It was absolutely necessary to be aware of the x-ray is the medical procedure, although this is completely irrelevant for the side function. Nevertheless, several pictures were renamed and the wiki changed, whereby X-ray pictures are no longer traceable and searchable.

Another time it does not matter whether rape and violence (bestiality) and love + consensual sex (zoophilia) together in a concept. Why do not terminate the term search and discussion at (for example) Cuntboy, and call all Intersex that is easier.

Especially the wrong name in the media is what zoophilia gives a bad call. Bestiality is an offense when it's on the wrong picture is similar to Cuntboy and Dickgirl. I myself know a zoophile. Bestiality provides zoophiles, with horse slaughtering on a step. At Bestiality, or Zoophilia, we are talking about more than 22,000 pictures. Maybe the half or who knows how much are actually Zoophilia.

Unlike Intersex, it is comparatively easy to find terms in Bestiality and Zoophilia. If you are in doubt, simply change bestiality through zoosex, the rest will do the standard tags (rape, questionable_consent, forced, love, romantic_couple, ....).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilia#Bestiality

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Könnte sich e621 mal entscheiden! Mal ist es extrem wichtig nebensächliche dinge bis in jedes Detail zu bezeichnen und Tags dafür zu schaffen. Das ist bei X-ray passiert. Es musste unbedingt darauf geachtet werden das x-ray ja das Medizinische verfahren ist, obwohl das für die Seiten Funktion völlig nebensächlich ist. Dennoch wurden etliche Bilder neu Bezeichnet und die Wiki geändert, wodurch X-ray Bilder nicht mehr auffindbar und suchbar sind.

Ein anderes mal ist es völlig egal ob hier Vergewaltigung und Gewalt (Bestiality) und liebe + einvernehmlichen Sex (zoophilia) zusammen in einen Begriff fassen tut. Warum beenden wird die Begriff Suche und Diskussion bei (zum Beispiel) Cuntboy nicht, und nennen alles Intersex das ist einfacher.

Gerade die Falsche Bezeichnung in den Medien ist es, welche Zoophilie einen schlechten ruf gibt. Bestiality ist eine Beleidigung, wenn es auf dem Falschen Bild ist ähnlich Cuntboy und Dickgirl. Ich selbst kenne einen zoophilen. Bestiality stellt Zoophile, mit Pferdeschlächterei auf eine Stufe. Bei Bestiality, beziehungsweise Zoophilia, reden wir von über 22.000 Bildern. Vielleicht die hälfte oder wer weiß wie viel sind eigentlich Zoophilia.

Anders als bei Intersex ist es bei Bestiality und Zoophilia, vergleichsweise einfach begriffe zu finden. Im Zweifel tut man einfach Bestiality durch zoosex tauschen, den Rest erledigen dann die Standard tags (rape, questionable_consent, forced, love, romantic_couple, ....).

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoophilie#Bestiality

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Bozar

Member

WarCanine said:
Why are "Zoophilia" and "Bestiality" seen as the same tags?
I mean, there's an obvious difference between these two.
Can't zoophilia be tagged with posts that represent obvious love/affection between human and non-human animals, while bestiality stays the same?

What are you suggesting exactly?
Separating the tags will only do harm. As some people view the terms as interchangeable (and they actually were, not so long ago). And some languages don't have a term other than latin "zoophilia".
So for the sake of the effective search they should stay aliased.

As mentioned earlier for the love/affection there is a separate tag "romantic"

Bestiality itself is not a very good tag though, there were numerous talks about whether it's needed at all. Like, for example, in this thread forum #174754

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The film “Germinal” explores several themes that were relevant to the time period in which it was set, and which remain relevant today. One of the main themes is the struggle for social justice. The film highlights the vast inequalities between the wealthy owners of the mines and the impoverished workers who toil in them.

The film “Germinal” follows the story of Étienne Lantier, a young and idealistic engineer who arrives in the coal mining town of Montsou in northern France. Lantier is determined to improve the working conditions of the miners and to bring about social change. However, he soon realizes that the reality of life in the mines is far more brutal than he had imagined.

The film “Germinal” features stunning cinematography, with a muted color palette that reflects the bleak and harsh conditions of the miners’ lives. The camerawork is often stark and unforgiving, capturing the brutal reality of life in the mines.

Another theme is the power of collective action. The miners, who are initially divided and disorganized, eventually come together to demand better working conditions and wages. This collective action is a powerful force that challenges the authority of the mine owners and the government.

The 1993 film “Germinal” is a powerful and haunting cinematic adaptation of Émile Zola’s 1885 novel of the same name. Directed by Claude Berri, the film tells the story of a group of coal miners in 19th-century France, struggling to survive in a harsh and unforgiving environment. The movie is a scathing critique of the social and economic conditions of the time, and its themes of poverty, inequality, and rebellion continue to resonate with audiences today.